Astra
Giza
OCT 5



Classic OCT



...as i like to say...
behold mighty gizmo
there's 4 main approaches i can think of, right off
...and i'm... not sure what to call them, officially...
...the Bauval method... aligning the brighter stars
corresponging to the larger circles... to G1 and G2
...the Creighton method... aligning the outer stars
corresponging to the outer circles... to G1 and G3
...and then the reverse of both of those... total of 4
using gizmo 1 and gizmo 2, for each of the theories
"the gizmo" as derived from measuring the proportions...
apparent in a high-resolution photograph of Orion's Belt
...see previous page for details and explanations etc...
it might be worth noting, that
with the entire group centered
the center circle is 28.5 east
27.50 is half of 55
27.75 is half of 55.5
360 / 27.0 = 13.333...
360 / 27.5 = 13.090909...
360 / 28.0 = 12.857142 857142 857142 857142 857142...
360 / 28.5 = 12.631578947368421052 631578947368421052...
360 / 30.0 = 12
that's how far off center the middle circle is
and therefore, the center star, aka Alnitak...
...from the exact center of the whole gizmo...
(click pix for hi-rez)
still giddy over the coincidence
that the proportions of my pixels
(for the circles) were 125 to 250
...which produced a length of 400
among other "approximate" numbers
...which i'm sure the ancients...
...certainly noticed, as well...
approximately phi
400 / 250 = 1.6
400 / 125 = 3.2
3.2 / 400 = 0.008
ratio of
3.2 to 1
..easy..
and it's not
exactly that
(in the sky)
that would make the universe very strange
...and our place in it... particularly special...
which, i guess we can say
it's almost both of those
to paraphrase the intro page
...if you were to take a walk
...carrying 3 stones with you
and every couple steps. or so
...drop a stone behind you...
and a while after you ran out
...stop... and turn around...
...and notice... they were...
...aligned... just... so...
that would be... interesting
...even strangely uncommon...
if they were exact to anything
that would be utterly amazing
Orion's Belt is just very close
...and, upon closer measuring...
...they're even amazingly close
...even... impressively, so...
...and, as these proportions...
...found prevalent in nature...
...are also often approximate...
...if you were one to believe...
in their inherent divine nature
wouldn't be at all surprising
...and no, not exatly right...
...well, of course, it's not...
...it's not supposed to be...
left image: recolored
public domain OCT pic
from Wiki's OCT page
G1 = purple
G2 = orange
G3 = green
below: wireframe overhead of Gizmo
Orion's Belt proportional construction
rescaled to align to the primary theory
centered on G2, at ( -638.5 , -675.5 )
the first thing i do
is rescale the gizmo
the circle surrounding
was 2000 originally...
...grouped together, with the Gizmo thingy
so, all dimensions change, proportionally
and then, adjusting
...incrementally...
4077 units
at 46.61
...above image, maximum zoom on
duplicate of far star sphere...
that's as close as i can get it
to align the far circle onto G1
as the ring for the center star
...is exactly centered on G2...
and, at this particular scaling
the large star circles = 511.66
...the ones for/at G1 and G2...
still being equal to each other
which is eerily, approximately
...exactly 100 cubits larger...
than a side of G2's base of 411
from S1
560.0
-511.666...
= 48.333...
48 and 1/3
5/3 from 50
5/3 as Phi
from 100
= 51.666...
3 x 13 + 2/3
keep those
in mind...
411 + 100 though...
you can not dismiss
something like that
as coincidental...
it's irresponsible
...and misleading
...and speaking of
coincidental things
that skeptics will
say "pshaw" to...
below image: wirey screenshot
notice how close that red rod
brushes past the NW edge of a
sphere south of G1 east of G2
above image: the gizmo diagram, from previous pages
here rotated 180 for closer relevant appreciation
...i'm calling the brown line "the doubling rod"
...and subsequently, the red line "the quad rod"
above image: overhead wireframe of S2e (red, selected)
showing how the red and blue lines in the gizmo diagram
...are relating to the mirrored spheres of G1 and G2...
duplicated south and east of their respective originals
echoed here for emphasis
with red and blue lines
drawn on the image itself
glow added for prominence
both spheres are
...due south of G1
and due east of G2
at G1 coordinates
( 0.0 , -675.5 )
...the difference
in their diameters
...is 11 cubits...
...at 560 and 549
(for S1s and S2e)
...left image...
perspective angle
view from the SW
...of the area...
...south of G1...
and east of G2...
...the blue line
...is SC's L3...
showing the gizmo's "quad rod"
(in magenta and white stripes)
is tangent to S2e (orange disc)
the orange disc as S2e
has a diameter of 549
matching G2's height
and the pink disc
beneath it, is S1s
with diameter of 560
matching G1's height
and then i threw an octagon down
with an outer diameter of 560...
and then rotated it 6 clockwise
to nearly make an alignment with
the "quad rod" (pink and white)
right image: wireframe
showing the octagon is
rotated 6 clockwise
...as shown above...
...a few images back
...the mighty gizmo is
still rotated to 46.61
...at this orientation
the large star circles
situated on G1 and G2
...below image...
...the quad rod is
turned to 141.15
from 135 = 6.15
0.15 = 3 20ths
...of a degree...
...close enough...
...for anybody...
stay tuned, space campers
...i get it closer... later...
(click pic for hi-rez)
above right
...pan back
perspective
of the area
...octagon
...removed
...below right...
...curious... little...
...intersection there...
a little right of center
the brown east west line
is from G2 (675.5 south)
and 20 cubits wide (N-S)
so, the red sphere point
is about 10 cubits north
this marks a corner of the
square of the center circle
250 pixels square in gizmo
...at this relative proportion
it's that same noted 511.66
(click pic for hi-rez)
above right image...
overhead render view
...of lines... and circles
combining "the gizmo"
with intersecting discs
relative to the heights
of G1 (above, purple)
and G2 (left, orange)
below right image
zoom view from SE
on the magenta dot
just north of the
mirrored spheres'
discs above middle
in the above image
and the same thing
...with the red dot
...above that... it's
marking the corner
of the square o the
outer large circle...
250 pixels square in gizmo,
at this relative proportion
...it's that noted 511.66..
the purple north-south line
is from G1 center ( 0 , 0 )
same 20 cubits width (E-W)
the cloudy striped line is LL
120 cubits south of G1 south,
here, made 40 cubits wide N-S
and here again is
the gizmo diagram
...rotated at 180
below image shows the double rod
(brown line in the gizmo diagram)
almost touching the G3nw corner
(as marked by the purple circle)
interesting
..anyways..
in this same
positioning
(for gizmo)
the smaller
star circle...
in this case
for Mintaka
...is right on
the G3w edge
1192.18 west
1446.67 south
and then... i noticed...
curiously, proportionally
it looked like phi, to me
so i did some measuring,
and what it is, actually
...is nestled between...
phi n 2/3 south to north
SW corner to midpoint...
or, from south to north
SW corner to NW corner
...half of phi (0.309)
and 1/3 that distance
...of G3's west side...
of 202 cubits, or 201.5
...which figures roughly
...as 67 and 62.5 cubits
...north from south edge
...Mintaka = 65 and 1/3
the yellow shaded box
marks the lower third
of a measuring object
made 202 cubits long
and those i just threw on there...
dragging n dropping, no precision...
n it's perhaps tempting to nitpick...
but, values are rounded responsibly...
...for example...
what i call 125 in
the diagram above,
is actually 124.83
...rotated at 0.28
the 201.5 base of G3
takes up the space of
about a 202 base area
the 67 as 1/3 of 202
                 202 / 3 = 67.333...
               201.5 / 3 = 67.1666...
neither figure being the actual point
1/3 of G3sw-G3nw
  -1197.5
+    67.1666...
= -1130.333...
G3sw is roughly -1512
but G3 is rotated 0.28
so the actual corner is
-1511.51 ...specifically
...but i'm just rounding
...but that is odd
it's almost exactly
1/2 cubit difference
-1512 + 67.0 = -1445.00
Mintaka orb: -1446.67
-1512 + 62.5 = -1449.50
202 x 0.618 = 124.836
202 / 3 ... = 67.333...
1512 - 1446.67 = 65.33
north to third = 1.67
n south to phi = 2.83
a difference of -1.16
and they have near phi
relationships between
there's that 125 again
as phi of 202 for G3...
and a 77, which is nice
(there was a 55 before)
202 x phi = 124.8428657274...
201.5 x phi = 124.5338487331...
... phi / 2 = 0.3090169943...
202 x (phi/2) = 62.421432...
201.5 x (phi/2) = 62.266924...
maybe rounder = 62.333.........
201.5 / 3 = 67.1666...
+ -1197.5 = -1130.333.....
as the "actual" 1/3 point S-N
...with G3 unrotated, however
201.5 x (phi/2) = 62.266924...
+ -1197.5 = -1135.233075...
as the "actual" half phi point
with G3 unrotated, however
...so, strangely, coincidentally...
they matched my original numbers
based on pixels from a photograph
...the 125 and 250 in pixels is a coincidence
but those are the rough proper proportions
...there's... lower resolutions... but it's 2:1
including the 400 in the concept
...dividing all numbers by 25...
...and you get... 5, 10 and 16...
the gizmo group was expanded, from
2000 cubits to 4077 proportionally
(multiplied by a factor of 2.0385)
at this scale, the sphere for the star
(which started out as 5 units diameter)
is now resized to 10.19 relative cubits
and the circle for the smaller star circle
...which in the reckoning was 125 pixels...
(inner ring 124, outer ring 126) now 256.85
here, i've duplicated that sphere
and made it 20 cubits in diameter
made the texture half transparent
and grounded it to zero elevation
where the stars apparent proportions
are roughly relative to the proportions
of values like 125 to 250... to 400 etc
compromising between 250 and 256
250 being a quarter of 1000, or 25 x 10
256 being a natural double, also 64 x 4
...as 2 to the 8th power, and 2/8 = 1/4
and you can say it's
...just a coincidence
...that's... just how it
happens to work out
...mathematically...
...geometrically...
...yeah... aha...
...first right image...
view from the SSSW
the Mintaka marker
(duplicated sphere)
enlarged and made
half-transparent...
...from this perspective, we can see
the star falls somewhere on the edge
between the SW and NW corners of G3
next image... second in the series...
from at about the altitude of the peak
looking down at the west face of G3...
...and from the SSW, approximately...
the Mintaka marker appears centered
next image... third in the series...
and turned a little more... slightly
now the Mintaka marker (green spheres)
and the center point of the west face
appear to straddle the apparent center
3D perspective in non-stereo 2D image
each of these 2 middle points are at
about phi to their opposite corner
next image... fourth in the series
from about double height altitude
...and looking almost due east...
...right at... the G3 west face...
we can see that the Mintaka marker
is right where it's supposed to be
cuz we're looking at it, laterally
where the pyramid meets the ground
is almost an exact horizontal line
thus, any perspecive displacement
is about as near zero as it can be
next image... fifth in the series
...pulled back quite a bit now...
G1 is completely obscured by G2
transparent spheres our only clue
next image... sixth in the series
a little higher relative altitude
G1 is peeking out from behind G2
...but appears much smaller here
...about half as big
...though in reality
it's slightly larger
and the SE corner of G3
marks... on a 1000 scale
the root 2-3-5 rectangle
of the 3 main pyramids
...measuring roughly...
...1000 times the square root of 2
by 1000 times the square root of 3
and the length of that hypotenuse
is 1000 times the square root of 5
...intentional and geometrical...
it actually makes math harder to understand... if you refuse to round off... or up... ever
...and also... math is easier to understand... if you remember to round off... or up, etc.
...converting complex values and variables... to their round equivalents... simplifying...
but somehow the coordinates for G2 center
seem odd to me, at: ( -638.50 , -675.50 )
but, not very far from very round numbers
with my coordinates relative to G1 center
so, i could go with ( -640.00 , -680.00 )
from the above coords: ( 1.50 and 4.50 )
...3 halfs and 9 halfs... respectively...
what i'm saying is... if i'd noticed this
(which is one of the first thingies i did)
and i wanted to represent it, approximately
...i would use those rounded proportions...
... 125 to 250 is 2 to 1
but put the 400 in there
125 / 5 = 25 ... / 5 = 5
250 / 5 = 50 ... / 5 = 10
400 / 5 = 80 ... / 5 = 16
10 to 16 = 5 to 8
approximately phi
...rounding to that
notch of resolution
and locking on that
round approximation
on a small piece of paper or whatever
measuring with hand size rulers etc...
5 to 8 ...or phi... is what you come to
and a technologically primitive society
especially already... grounded in such
...philosophy... would see it as holy
i'm not saying the ancient egyptians built the pyramids
i think they came along much after... beheld the ruins
...what i'm saying is... they noticed this eventually
...and what little there is, textually... reachingly
...associating Orion n the Belt etc, to any deities
this is where they got that from... simply must be
...and this is not immersing myself in egyptology
all the official scholars will now say i'm silly
from S1
 560.0
-511.666...
= 48.333...
 256.85
-201.5
= 55.35
256 / 202 = 54 = 6 x 9
202 x root 2
= 285.671...
more on that later
...repositioning the gizmo...
...to the rounder, approximated
G2 center coords ( -640 , -680 )
...the "quad-rod" now "chimes in"
more "in tune" with the 6 spin...
of the octagon at ... 141.03 ...
just 3 hundredths of a degree off
from aligning to an octagon side
...looking northeast
from just east of G2
the spotted quad-rod
is now parallel with
a green octagon side






that lil possibility i quipped out earlier
got me into actually modelling the theory
...and it really, seriously is something

...and this is just... preliminary
but... ok, how do i explain this ?

...in classic OCT...
with the bright stars Alnitak and Alnilam
aligned to G1 and G2 centers, respectively
...Mintaka falls on the western edge of G3
and, i've already measured the 2D overhead
it's between 1/3 and half-phi on that side
...anyways, and this is why ya gotta go 3D
...that far west, or east of the west edge
to center on the slope, a sphere wants to be
...and remember, G3 is rotated 0.28 degrees...
6.0 cubits above the ground, exactly, to align to the inside tilt
7.2 cubits above the ground, exactly, to align to the outside tilt
therefore, 12 and 14.4 cubits diameters, respectively, accordingly
...G3 is where it is for a reason... aligning to many other things
and on this scale it all works out mathematically n geometrically
square root of 2
square root of 3
squaring circles for precise positioning...
and then Mintaka falls on this thing exactly







Scott Creighton from this GHMP post
This point on the SW face of G3
is what I termed the 'Taylor Point'
some time ago after C. Wayne Taylor
showed how the geometry of G1 and G2
'focusses' on this point of G3 .......
I decided to see what would happen when centering G3 on this point
and in so doing, found a near perfect match with the Orion Belt Stars
and from that was able to construct the Orion Geo-Stellar Fingerprint.

Not sure if this helps in any way with the
spacing issue you have been grappling with
You can read more on this here


in redoing my website a little bit, facelift thingy
i came across the diagram of the Taylor Point
which, along with the Chase Line, i put off
not fully understanding the story behind it

i think i would like to quote you on that
just the top 2/3 or so of the below bit

n further extrapolating, annoyingly
in the geostellar fingerprint thingy
are the G3 queens moved at all ?
relative to where Mintaka falls ?
...and do any stars align
to those new positions ?
cuz, otherwise, i mean, i don't really have a problem with
Mintaka not falling on G3 center, or even edge, precisely
it's like everyone's been bullied by the right
this silly lil technicality o simplistic semantics
cuz it jus happens to be wherein the truth prolly really lies
jus because the other 2 stars are aligned to pyramid centers
doesn't mean there isn't some wiggy sacred geometry actually
intentionally, purposefully, definitively
...missin the... whole... point, see...
...n therein lies the automatic irony

but i am open obviously
to groovy sci-fi fantasy
like someone throws a switch
maybe in the lightshow thingy
and that whole section of the plateau moves
...shifting G3 and queens into specific position
so the center of G3 aligns with Mintaka perfectly
...this being for special occasions only
maybe some kinda ancient star party

...but seriously...
i think we hafta take as given
being mountains made o stone
they are right where they're sposedta be

for me next trick slash gimick
i will measure the Taylor Point
in 3D, precisely slash officially










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